Shotgun Kitty

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Shotgun Kitty

Post by Toni_xx_cheerbabexx » Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:04 pm

I want to know if anybody has some interesting information about Kathryn L. Marbaker Tubb. She is one of the most prominent women I have found that laid her business at the old Death Valley Junction, than later moved to Ash Meadows after a pipe burst while running pipes to and from Ash Meadows to DVJ. I know she was called Shotgun Kitty, because she never went anywhere without her gun. If anyone has some other info, or good books for me to look into, I would greatly appreciate it. I just love her stories.

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Post by Robin » Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:12 am

There is a very brief bio of Shotgun Kitty Tubb here: http://www.unr.edu/wrc/nwhp/biograph/tubb.htm

She is also profiled in the Death Valley Women's History Exhibit at the Shoshone Museum. This February, at the Nevada Boomtown History Conference at Longstreet's in Amargosa, Judy Palmer will be presenting a paper on Kitty Tubb and her life in Death Valley Junction and Ash Meadows. Apart from that, there is not much written about Kitty Tubb that I know to be accessible on the internet.

Kitty actually left Death Valley Junction in 1914 after she and her husband Bob Tubb were divorced. He remained at the Junction to continue operating the store, saloon, and hotel they had established together and she moved to a ranch at Ash Meadows.

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Post by Toni_xx_cheerbabexx » Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:00 pm

ooo that's interesting I didn't know that he stayed. I know that they got divorced that She remarried twice after that, but I didn't know that Robert Tubb kept it going. Thanks

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Post by Toni_xx_cheerbabexx » Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:04 pm

It just clicked on me who her second husband was... Jesse Wiley. Now why does that ring a bell. If someone can tell me if i am right, isn't he one of the Wiley's who created the Hidden Hills Ranch out in pahrump, NV? Or am I thinking of a different Wiley? let me know, this will help my search.

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Post by Toni_xx_cheerbabexx » Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:06 pm

Sorry I didn't realize that it takes a moment to go into the forum. I don't know how to erase it. Sorry.

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Post by bglinc@me.com » Thu Dec 15, 2016 7:59 am

Hello, I very rarely google my great grandmother Kitty Tubb, my name is Bradley Land and you will have to forgive me as I never met her. She passed before I was born. My grandfather was George Washington Tubb, my mom Maureen his daughter. I have a bunch of first cousins that still live throughout the desert and Nevada. I lost contact with them shortly after my mom and my grandfathers brothers daughters sold the family ranch. I think it was the late 90s. I only met my uncle Robert Tubb a few times, my Cousin's Judy, Nancy and Virginia a few times. I was dropped off a few times when I was kid to spend time with my great uncle Bob on the ranch. I often get fired up when I hear inaccurate portrayals of my great grandmother. But, I thought this chain of notes was the pursuit of the truth. This is what I know, in the late 1800s early 1900s my great grandma carried a shotgun for a variety of reasons all the time. Primarily from what I was told and only my cousins if still alive could weigh in more accurately. Kitty Tubb was amazing, she built the first school house in Death Valley Junction for a variety of reasons. Her children needed an education. They needed help with the ranch, the Shoshone Indians needed work and she needed help. Their children needed an education, Kitty allowed them to get their education with her children in a one room school house. She could only afford to pay so much, so she hired some of the Shoshone that she befriended and loved. And, every morning stood on the school porch ringing the bells to call the children for there schooling, with a shot gun in hand to protect them. She was never a bandit, she was a woman that was pioneer in a very rough unsettled part of the United States with water rights on her land. The land was amazing if I remember correctly, it had ponds and streams, mud holes to play in and was simply amazing. This is what I remember as being told to me wether accurate or not, I have some of her heirlooms still remaining, gifts from the Shoshone that probably need a little restoration now that they are antiques. I wish I had more, I will be donating those items to the California State Museum with a notation from me such as this... the story about her youngest son is true, he also didn't live long from what I was told. She was a woman of compassion, strength at a daring time in the development of our country, she was an activist in every sense of the word. I wish you well in pursuing her truth as I would like to learn more. I was told many stories, but always remember the familiar truths. I hope this helps you all. I am the last member of her clan in Pasadena now, as my great uncle's wife was moved out of here in the late 90s, my mom transitioned in 2000. My dear brother is on the east coast. And, that's the story from Pasadena. Keep pursuing the truth, my people are around...

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Post by MojaveGeek » Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:21 pm

Wow that's nice to hear. It's always cool when someone living connects with the past on a forum like this.

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Post by ETAV8R » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:08 pm

Very cool indeed. Thank you for sharing.

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Thanks for sharing about Shotgun Kitty Tubb

Post by Death Valley Dazed » Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:07 pm

The details of your family history will sure bring much more enjoyment to my next visit to DVNP as I will be thinking about this pioneer woman and her accomplishments back then.

I wish you would swing a family reunion in order to gather more stories and artifacts for the rest of us to enjoy online and at the museums.

Thanks so much for sharing!
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Re: Shotgun Kitty

Post by BillW » Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:27 pm

My Short Time With Shotgun Kitty Tubb
by W.D. Whitmore
I met Bob Tubb, one of the babies in the picture on Highway 127 between Shoshone, California and Death Valley Junction, sometime in the summer of 1952, while I was still in the Army.
It was early evening, just at dusk and I was on my way back to Camp Desert Rock in Nevada where I was stationed, from Santa Monica, where I had been spending the weekend visiting my brother George and his wife Hazel. I drove around a corner and was blinded by headlights. Since I couldn't see the road, I naturally went to the right of the headlights. Unfortunately, Bob had pulled off onto the left side of the road, because it was the only place he could get off the road to fix his headlights. When I went to the right of his lights, I drove off the road and down over a shallow bank. No damage done luckily, so I drove back up onto the road. Bob apologized profusely, I insisted it was as much my fault as his and we proceeded to get acquainted.
He explained that he had a ranch in Ash Meadows, but he lived in Pasadena, and every other weekend he came up with supplies and to work his ranch, where his mother (Kitty) stayed as caretaker. He told me where the ranch was located and invited me to come over for the weekend in two weeks. I was really looking forward to it, since I was stationed out in the desert with nothing much to do on weekends.
When I got there two weeks later, however I found "No Trespassing" signs all over the place and three gates to go through. By the time I had made it through that last gate, I had become somewhat apprehensive about the whole affair. I had just closed the last gate and was standing there by the car, wondering what to do next. About a hundred yards away, I saw a cabin with a woman sitting on the porch with a shotgun on her lap. She said in a voice somewhat suggestive of a chainsaw,"Well, you came this far, you might as well come on the rest of the way". That was my introduction to Kitty Tubb!
I had a great time that weekend and after we became better acquainted, she invited me to come over anytime I could get free. She liked to have visitors and was actually very lonesome there by herself during the week, so I was more than happy to have a place to go in the evenings and get away from camp. In time, we became good friends, although actually she was more like a mother to me.
Some of the guys I worked with became curious about where I was spending my time so many evenings and eventually I took one of my best friends along with me and introduced him to Kitty. He went back to camp telling everyone about Kitty and how nice she was to be around so one night a group of them piled into the car and went with us and we ended up having a party. I don’t know who enjoyed it the most, but Kitty was in her glory and being the natural mother that she was, she adopted the whole bunch there on the spot.
When I was discharged from the army, I went back out to Death Valley Junction and worked for a while in the laundry at the Amargosa Hotel until it closed for the season. The man who ran the laundry wanted me to go with him and work in the laundry at a hotel in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. I had pretty much decided to spend the rest of my life in Ash Meadows and even had a job application at the California highway maintenance department, so with a lot of reluctance I turned him down.
All of this time, I was writing letters home and telling stories about Kitty. My mother must have misinterpreted my enthusiasm about my desert rat friend Kitty and thought I was having some kind of affair with her. Mother sent my brother David out to visit with me and talk me into “coming home.” I had made arrangements to go back to Ohio but the day before I left, the foreman of the California Highway Department called and said my job was open if I still wanted it. I had intended to spend some time in Ohio and then go back to Ash Meadows eventually, but such was not to be. I should have cancelled the trip to Ohio and taken the highway job and then go back when my first vacation came, but the folly of youth and all that. I passed on the job and went back to Ohio and have never left. Kitty died less than four years later and I often thought I wish I could have been there with her till the end.
I have been dwelling on this situation, and I have come to the conclusion that like many others, I have made decisions and mistakes that have closed multiple doors behind me. Also like many others, I can't help but wonder, what would I have found if I had gone through those doors, instead of closing them? It is an intriguing thought!
The time that I spent in Ash Meadows was the happiest time of my life and I will always remember those good times. I have had many friends in my life and it is hard to pick my best friend, but I have been able to do that. Believe or not, it is not Kitty Tubb. She was more than my best friend. It was a privilege and a blessing to have known her and I consider myself to be one of the luckiest persons alive to be her friend.

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