Where's the border?

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Where's the border?

Post by Morrie » Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:04 pm

There's a dirt road from Gold Point in Nevada that goes down Oriental Wash, enters Death Valley, and heads toward Little Sand Spring where it hits the Big Pine/Death Valley Road. I don't know if this dirt road has a name. What's curious is that the sign for the state line on that road is in a different place from the sign for the park boundary. It's like there's a non-man's land of about 40' between the park and the state line. Is that really true, or is one of the signs in the wrong place?

In this photo the orange post in the back is the state line, and the brown post in front says "park boundary". The photographer is in California and that's the Slate Ridge in back. Where's is this person?

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Post by D.A. Wright » Wed Jun 03, 2015 1:28 pm

The state line and the park boundary, as per my understanding, are one and the same in that particular section.

On the road east from Crankshaft Crossing, there is a larger, modern sign indicating that one is entering DVNP.
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Post by Morrie » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:15 pm

D.A. Wright wrote: On the road east from Crankshaft Crossing, there is a larger, modern sign indicating that one is entering DVNP.
Do you recall whether there is also a state line boundary marker at exactly that same point?

I could understand if a sign that said "Death Valley" was slightly off from, or inside, the actual park boundary, but the DVNP post in my picture is a park boundary marker, so one would expect it to be right on the line. Here's what it looks like.

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Post by Sparky of SoCal » Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:40 pm

This is an example of ,Close Enough For Government Work.

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Post by D.A. Wright » Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:33 pm

Morrie wrote: Do you recall whether there is also a state line boundary marker at exactly that same point?
It's been about seven years since I've passed that point, but over the decades I've gone that way many times. I think I recall a benchmark and possibly paddle marker indicating the state line. And Esmeralda County, NV annually grades that road on the Nevada side and after they grade the road it's very clear that they stop right at the DVNP sign.
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Post by Pezdragon » Sat Jun 06, 2015 5:26 pm

I was curious about that myself when I camped in that area just inside the Nevada border. I just chocked it up to the way of things in the 'out there'

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Post by TonyG » Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:17 am

Just another DMZ! ;-)

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Post by Dezdan » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:55 pm

The park boundary doesn't follow the state boundary exactly along most of NV. It shoots in and out by a small margin - OR maybe the park boundary is straight and the state line moves back and forth. Anyway, grey is NPS, orange is BLM, margin of error is +/- a tad, but you can see that the park boundary at that point is in NV:

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Post by TonyG » Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:02 pm

Or maybe the draftsman had a Monday shaking-hand problem? :lol:

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